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Jeannette Shennan's avatar

My experience of teaching mindfulness (from the secularised prescribed format of Jon Kabat-Zinn's Mindfulness-based Stress Reduction (MBSR) in a physical health setting) is that individuals who persevere with the practice, which is absolutely about paying attention to the senses, frequently have an experience of the spiritual. It generally seems to need regular practice of 30-45 minutes meditation. If they already have a Christian faith, it builds on that. If not, it feels spiritual but not 'religious'. Most dramatic was a very disabled man, able to move little of his body, who reported a convincing and life-changing experience of God's presence during mindfulness of breathing. (One of Kabat-Zinn's books is titled "Coming to our Senses"!)

And on a somewhat different track, angels etc.......a very thought-provoking article in the last NZ Geo magazine, describing the experience of being accompanied reported by individuals lost in the wild - alone! Here's the link:https://www.nzgeo.com/stories/lost/

Thanks Frank, so sorry you are leaving Commoners....

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Karen Brewer's avatar

I enjoyed this, thanks Frank. I have had several of these experiences. I usually link them to things that have happened in a place in the past. I expect that would be the case with your Kaimai experience (plenty of Māori history there). When we were first engaged my husband took me to a place he loved. While it looked nice (peaceful forest), I felt so uneasy and threatened that I insisted we had to leave. Later I found that this was the site of where Māori were massacred. There is a place near the Kaimai Range that my grandfather (of Irish Catholic stock) forbid me to visit because he saw it as spiritually dangerous. He's long since passed, but I'll never be able to go there against his advice. On the positive side, there are the "thin places" in Celtic spirituality. I've sensed those places too.

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